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Do You Think The Cabinet Ministers Are Very Greedy?
Yes!
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No!
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I Am Confused!
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I Don't Know!
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Bumblebee
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 7:41 pm    Post subject: Are The Singapore Cabinet Ministers being Greedy? Reply with quote

Slowly but not surely, more ugly "secrets" are made public.

With the current informations about the high salary paid to the ministers as well as pensions and what nots.

Do you think that the SG Government Ministers are too greedy enriching themselves???

Greed is one of the Great Sins, the others are Pride, Lust, Gluttony, Envy, Wrath & Sloth.

With power, the 7 sins became a Black Hole.

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with this pay grade, no wonders no corruption from the MP... :P
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quiet Guy wrote:
with this pay grade, no wonders no corruption from the MP... :P


with last year strong GDP growth, think they are going to raise their pay soon Lips Sealed
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not wrote:
Quiet Guy wrote:
with this pay grade, no wonders no corruption from the MP... :P


with last year strong GDP growth, think they are going to raise their pay soon Lips Sealed


seriously speaking, i believe there are agenda behind for them to be ruling party in singapore.

They get more benefit then just their million dollar salaries.
Many ministers have Investment company? Transparency?

Oh, got 1 person say they are not greedy.
Can you jusify why not?
Or you simply ignore just like them? anyway, dun give a damn LoL .
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am the ONE who voted NO.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quiet Guy wrote:
i am the ONE who voted NO.


why you dun feel so? at least, i can justify hee..

Anyway, Please refer to the URL http://www.yeocheowtong.com/

corruption or not very subjective. Use GIC / Temasek to pull string for their own benefit? Without that high salaries? how would they be able to start a new company of their own?
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is this webby created by himself ?

if you believe in this webby, than you should agree that being a minister is not a good job to do.

an investor will invest in any thing, but not necessary will be profitable in the end.

only you are in control, than you can have first class in everything.

ever wonder those volunteer that like to go oversea to do volunteer job, do they do volunteer job in their own country !


everyone has their very right on judgement on every right/wrong issue, please respect them.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if they have done something good for sgp and the citizens of sgp...then by all means..accept your high salary..

if you can only come up with policies that do not benefit sgp and its citizens...then you should be ashamed.

best example...our dear MBT and KBW.

now KBW take over MND...god knows what stupid things he will do and say..that he only paid $8 for this flat?
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Archenemy wrote:
if they have done something good for sgp and the citizens of sgp...then by all means..accept your high salary..



high salary must also be properly benchmarked.
against highest paid corporate rates is way too much.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those who had voted "YES", the answer is very obvious, the whole world knew.

But, for those who had voted "NO", is it fair enough for me to ask why do you think so? Sly

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumblebee wrote:
Those who had voted "YES", the answer is very obvious, the whole world knew.

But, for those who had voted "NO", is it fair enough for me to ask why do you think so? Sly


Bee, no point asking this question because I have been asking ever since before the GE. They cant anwer because they do not have any concrete proof or reason. They are just simply a pathetic no idea group of follower. That is their mindset and just let it be. Sometimes i do feel sad for them. We have our own idea and view, we just share it with our kids than wasting time with those group of no idea people. Sometime I feel sad to their children too as I always feel we should always teach our children to have creativity idea and always have their own view. Not just a YES sir people. Because this people will never grow far and stagant forever and never improve.

Therefore, forever PAP haha.
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also wonder those voted yes. how far they had grown.
or just like those who voted no still viewing in is forum ..

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can recall how ex-MM advocated and argued for the need to pay ministers salaries comparable to top earners in the private sector. His rationale was that it was not easy to attract the best brains into politics and become ministers as these high-flyers were already earning, or could earn much higher salaries, by remaining in the private sector, and entering politics involved too much risks and sacrifices including the lost of privacy, etc. He also argued that Singapore's GDP and high per capita income was such that it could easily afford to pay its ministers top salaries.

Ex-MM further asserted that to argue against paying ministers top salaries based on the altruistic argument that entering politics was not about money but more about serving people was hiding behind political hypocrisy. Mr Chiam See Tong was lambasted for advancing such an argument and was even accused of playing gutter politics when he compared and equated what a minister earned in one month to the dozen years or so an average worker would take to earn in equivalence.

When the policy to pay ministers top salaries by pegging with the top earners in private sector was pushed through, Singaporeans were still a complicit lot and the opposition then was still struggling to find its footing. In hindsight, it has become quite apparent now that the rationale advocated for paying top salaries to ministers was over-simplistic and lacking wisdom. It has fallen flat on its nose judging by the unhappiness and resentments expressed in recent times through the ballot box and the social media.

It is also obvious that the high salary pay out has the unintended effect of producing smug and arrogant ministers operating from ivory towers, detached and removed from the ground, hopelessly unable to relate with the plight of the struggling man-of-the-street, and completely desentisized from the hardship their policies have created.

Do these ministers have any idea what we, the ordinary citizens, have to contend with everyday to provide for the family? Are these ministers aware that some of our children being turned down by our very own universities as not good enough have to go abroad at great expenses to pursue their tertiary education in foreign universities and despite the odds, came up top?

Are these ministers aware that we parents having retired have to scrounge and borrow money to prove to foreign universities that we have enough funds to see our childrenís education through before they could be accepted, whilst our money remained locked in our CPF retirement accounts, unable to be used to help our children in their education abroad?

I donít suppose our world highest paid ministers have any bread and butter issue to contend with to even remotely understand what it means to survive and cope with life and the cost of living in Singapore. Surely not because with the hundreds of thousands of salaries being credited into their bank accounts every month, there is just too much money flowing out of their ears for them to notice, much less undertstand, what is going on in the lives of ordinary Singaporeans.

For those who vote NO? still no view?
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why they keep saying the salary should be tag to Top earners in the private sector? They are not in the private sector. They should be there to serve the people. If they want to earn private sector top monies than by all means go find a job in the private sector.

Even with $$million$$ dangling, PAP still had problems attracting real talent in the recent GE, there were a few clowns in the new batch obviously, more than just $$$ is at stake here. You should know which old clowns and young clowns i am referring. LoL ..
- ERP solve traffic issue? Mas selamat got no threat to singaporean during his escape period?
- HDB are affordable and you can jolly well pay off the HDB loan for the next 30 years with both working adults combine income?
- $8 medical fee for operation?
- Education fee is still afforable and cheap in singapore as I still able to afford for a branded bag?

For those "No" voters, PM himself already agree that they should have a reduction in their salaries Smile , maybe you can email them by telling them not to reduce their current existing salaries they are holding right now as it is comfortable just for you. They would be greatful and your family and your offspring will be taking care by PAP till the day they are not a ruling party.

And by the way, please make sure that while there is a reduction in pay, there are no other benefits to compensate the wage lost for the ministers. And while we are at it, what about all the directorships the ministers are holding? Can we have full time minister please?

R Nathan of royal blood? But used to be a Japanese translator during the World War 2? I not sure as I saw it somewhere in the website stated that. Is Singapore a Constitutional Monarchy? If not why is our president drawing more monthly income than Queen Elizabeth of the UK? Is something wrong somewhere? Look at the size of tiny Singapore. There can be no justification. Just look at Singapore's GDP compared to Australia, US, Japan & UK. There can never be justification no matter what the PAP professors tell us. You can't give the government leaders and the president incomes that are so much higher than what the government leaders of the industrialized west and Japan draw. It makes sense only to those who are drawing the income and not to anybody else anywhere.

Last but not least, no point playing with words and sentences as it will never be end but also a bit of waste of time and childish. Kindly appreciate if anyone could show us the concrete proofs and evidences why they are not and why they are greedy.

Thanks brothers / sisters ! Nod
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheesh!!!!!!!!

It took the so called "leaders" so........damn.................l..........o.............n..................g.................to react to all those disquiets and disbelieves on the overpaid and overvalued appointments in the office bearers of Singapore when the majority of them are part-timers.

The worst part of them all was: as representative member for their constituents in Parliament, they never even questioned the needs to pay themselves such obscene and exorbitant compensations to serve the nation on a part-time basis.

They just represent their party, not the constituents!

The answer is known...................they knew they were too greedy all these while! Furious

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